Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:23:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:23:07 -0500 Received: from pl100.nas921.ichikawa.nttpc.ne.jp ([210.165.234.100]:47162 "EHLO mbr.sphere.ne.jp") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:22:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:22:39 +0900 From: Bruce Harada To: Rob Landley Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution) Message-Id: <20020115112239.25e713e0.bruce@ask.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <20020114234129.MGOI23959.femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> In-Reply-To: <20020114125228.B14747@thyrsus.com> <20020114173423.A23081@thyrsus.com> <20020115080218.7709cef7.bruce@ask.ne.jp> <20020114234129.MGOI23959.femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5 (GTK+ 1.2.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: $qrUU,Lz=B[A}i%m2Rg^Ik;~V@]$Ay)$S`wUf3:^aZ1UdLf,_;1y7_xbEh=Yv*wB0=Fv]a1hj14_qQsl[f1KX]q4IdhwmSIeP6>Ap@[e$c$G;;ObLI7?YXsq*)M'3Jp wrote: > On Monday 14 January 2002 06:02 pm, Bruce Harada wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:34:23 -0500 > > > > Aunt Tillie just DOESN'T CARE, OK? She can talk to her vendor if she gets > > worried about whether her kernel supports the Flangelistic2000 SuperDoodad. > > I think what Eric's REALLY going for is converting some of the Minesweeper > Certified Solitaire Experts down at the corner store (and yes there are still > corner computer stores in mini-malls around the country) over to The Penguin. Er... if Eric were REALLY going for that, why didn't he use it as an example? That might actually be a possible real-world situation, whereas all the ones I've seen so far are so far removed from reality as to be pointless. Let me put it this way: Requiring Aunt Tillie to configure/compile her kernel is a *failure* on the part of the vendor. It doesn't matter whether Aunt Tillie is really Aunt Tillie or your local MSCE. They should not have to do it. As for adding a driver that's not included in the vendor's kernel, do you mean that having a Microsoft-trained drone rebuild a kernel specifically for a certain PC (thus requiring further compilation for any hardware added later) and including a no-doubt beta driver and then giving it to Aunt Tillie without any testing beyond the MCSE's PC is a *good* idea? (I've trimmed the cc line a bit, BTW.) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/