Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753724AbYFBSK7 (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:10:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751526AbYFBSKx (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:10:53 -0400 Received: from mail.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:49045 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750862AbYFBSKw (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:10:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:10:35 -0700 From: Brandon Philips To: Alan Cox Cc: David Woodhouse , torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, Mauro Carvalho Chehab , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bastien Nocera Subject: Re: v4l regression: V4L2_CID_[VH]CENTER disappeared without notice. Message-ID: <20080602181035.GA440@plankton.ifup.org> References: <200804241931.m3OJVQiR022368@hera.kernel.org> <1212421611.16924.246.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20080602165649.01c2c680@core> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080602165649.01c2c680@core> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-03-31) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1237 Lines: 28 On 16:56 Mon 02 Jun 2008, Alan Cox wrote: > > Please can we revert the addition of _DEPRECATED to these ioctl > > definitions. Perhaps we can add a runtime warning if they actually get > > used? Or a compile-time warning if we can manage that? > > Can you clarify the problem here ? Is this compile breakage as it appears > (See 'do not include kernel headers in user space apps') or runtime ? It is compile breakage and was also discussed on fedora-devel-list@redhat.com with Mauro and myself CC'd. The control number will be reserved forever to avoid binary breakage. However, as Mauro noted in that conversation: "Those controls haven't been used by any Kernel drivers for a long time (I suspect that they were never used)." Since no driver had ever implemented the control I figured user space application wouldn't be using it either. If David wants to revert the _DEPRECATED tags that is fine; we can add a feature removal for a year from now if it gets merged. Thanks, Brandon -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/