Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753820AbYFBT75 (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:59:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752061AbYFBT7t (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:59:49 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([18.85.46.34]:55656 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751892AbYFBT7s (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:59:48 -0400 Subject: Re: v4l regression: V4L2_CID_[VH]CENTER disappeared without notice. From: David Woodhouse To: Alan Cox Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, Brandon Philips , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bastien Nocera In-Reply-To: <20080602201911.1a48cc83@core> References: <200804241931.m3OJVQiR022368@hera.kernel.org> <1212421611.16924.246.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20080602165649.01c2c680@core> <1212434648.8810.10.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20080602201911.1a48cc83@core> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:59:38 +0100 Message-Id: <1212436778.8810.27.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 (2.22.1-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 940 Lines: 27 On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 20:19 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > Don't forget to document how people are _supposed_ to use the v4l api > > from userspace, though. > > Correct but those methods are not part of the V4L2 API and have not been > for some considerable time. It seems that message hadn't got through. Any suggestions as to how we could make sure it does in future? The usual answers are (in order of preference): 1) don't remove userspace APIs 2) don't remove userspace APIs 3) Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt 4) don't remove userspace APIs It would be good if we could combine #3 with some form of __deprecated... can we make that work for ioctls in userspace? -- dwmw2 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/