Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755232AbYFCM1T (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:27:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753089AbYFCM1E (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:27:04 -0400 Received: from dsl093-193-175.stl1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.93.193.175]:59575 "EHLO hades.sngx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752342AbYFCM1D (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:27:03 -0400 Message-ID: <48453909.4000301@sngx.net> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:28:57 -0500 From: James Cammarata User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fink CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linux Netdev List Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: add ability to clear stats via ethtool - e1000/pcnet32 References: <482DA5B6.1020606@sngx.net> <482DB46A.8020103@cosmosbay.com> <482EF192.4070707@sngx.net> <482F5113.5090703@cosmosbay.com> <482F610D.2080108@sngx.net> <20080518003104.GK28241@solarflare.com> <482FBA09.80201@sngx.net> <483E0AAE.2020107@sngx.net> <20080528221118.63da4092.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <483EA2D1.8050603@sngx.net> <20080529154525.3916c7b5@core> <20080530151250.b44a119a.billfink@mindspring.com> <20080531131143.516ca56e@core> <20080531195702.0b879dd1.billfink@mindspring.com> <48437C25.7080400@gdt.id.au> <20080602121007.1e81cf05.billfink@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <20080602121007.1e81cf05.billfink@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1269 Lines: 23 > First of all, when assisting a user, they typically aren't even > running an snmp daemon (and there might be firewall issues to > access it if they are). And I don't think the "ethtool -S" driver > stats are even accessible via SNMP (although they may contribute > to more generic interface stats which are), and it is the specific > driver stats which are often key to help diagnosing the problem. Ok, just to jump back in and add my $0.02, I plan to send a patch to the ethtool project to do what was suggested (snapshot to /var, and diff stats against that for future reference). I would just like to point out that this will introduce inconsistencies between _every_ other source of interface stats (ifconfig/procfs/etc). I can deal with that, it just means one more thing to keep track of when you're troubleshooting. Also, I'd like to point out that the "stepping on other peoples toes" argument is a bogus one, since most major network vendors include this ability, and it's not exactly a concern now. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/