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From: "Manuel McLure" <manuel@mclure.org>
To: <root@chaos.analogic.com>, "Marco Colombo" <marco@esi.it>
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Subject: Re: Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:15:43 -0800
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Red Hat provides a source RPM for their kernel - install the source RPM and
use rpm to build it. If you want to figure out what order the patches were
applied in, just look at the RPM spec file. I myself have applied patches to
a Red Hat kernel RPM in this fashion.

--
Manuel A. McLure KE6TAW | ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient
<manuel@mclure.org>     | and significant law, no man may kill a cat.
<http://www.mclure.org> |             -- H.P. Lovecraft


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: "Marco Colombo" <marco@esi.it>
Cc: "Thomas Duffy" <Thomas.Duffy.99@alumni.brown.edu>; "Linux Mailing List"
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery --
the elegant solution)


> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Marco Colombo wrote:
>
> > On 15 Jan 2002, Thomas Duffy wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 04:29, Andrew Pimlott wrote:
> > >
> > > > - Building from source is good karma.
>
> [SNIPPED...]
>
> >
> > Every distro supplies a package with the source used to build their own
> > kernel. Just recomplile it.
>
> Really???  Have you ever tried this? RedHat provides a directory
> of random patches that won't patch regardless of the order in
> which you attempt patches (based upon date-stamps on patches or
> date-stamps on files). It's like somebody just copied in some
> junk, thinking nobody would ever bother.
>
> Some distributions don't even provide source. They provide
> copies of /usr/src/linux/include/asm and /usr/src/linux/include/linux
> but nothing else. You have to "find" source on the internet.
>
> Some distributions don't even provide that, instead they provide
> copies of /usr/src/linux/include/linux and /usr/src/linux/include/asm
> under /usr/include.
>
> The "good-ol-days" where you could get 72 floppies from Yggdrasil,
> install Linux, and spend the next 48 hours watching it compile
> are long gone.
>
> I have never found a distribution that uses modules, in which is
> was even remotely possible to duplicate the kernel supplied.
>
> Cheers,
> Dick Johnson
>
> Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
>
>     I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be
>     attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del
>     was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any.
>
>
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