Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760136AbYFJWwm (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:52:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754375AbYFJWwd (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:52:33 -0400 Received: from www.church-of-our-saviour.org ([69.25.196.31]:50147 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752444AbYFJWwc (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:52:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:52:22 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Greg KH Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Rothwell Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] linux-staging tree created Message-ID: <20080610225222.GG8397@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Rothwell References: <20080610190540.GA25066@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080610190540.GA25066@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@mit.edu X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1481 Lines: 32 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:05:40PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > PURPOSE > > The linux-staging tree was created to hold drivers and filesystems and > other semi-major additions to the Linux kernel that are not ready to be > merged at this point in time. It is here for companies and authors to > get a wider range of testing, and to allow for other members of the > community to help with the development of these features for the > eventual inclusion into the main kernel tree. > > This tree will be included in the daily linux-next builds, and will get > testing by all users of that tree. Does this mean that the nature of linux-next is changing? I thought the whole point of linux-next was only to have what would be pushed to Linus in the near future, so we could check for patch compatibility issues. For that reason, for example, I don't push the unstable set of patches in the ext4 tree to linux-next, since they aren't ready for merging yet in their current form. But if linux-staging is going to be pushed to linux-next, doesn't that violate the ground rules of Linux-next? Or are we allowing in this case because these are filesystems and/or device drivers that don't exist at all in the mainline tree yet? - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/