Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:26:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:25:56 -0500 Received: from dsl254-112-233.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.254.112.233]:42881 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:25:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:09:24 -0500 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Alex Bligh - linux-kernel Cc: Tom Rini , Justin Carlson , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution) Message-ID: <20020115230924.A5538@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Alex Bligh - linux-kernel , Tom Rini , Justin Carlson , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020115013025.GA3814@cpe-24-221-152-185.az.sprintbbd.net> <197055869.1011134770@[195.224.237.69]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <197055869.1011134770@[195.224.237.69]>; from linux-kernel@alex.org.uk on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:46:11PM -0000 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Alex Bligh - linux-kernel : > & this has a seemingly obvious solution, which is, if the autoprobe > stuff is selected, and, after presentation of the initial list > of drivers, plus comments like 'Network card: none', 'Sound card: none', > say 'We may have missed some stuff if you have an old computer, press > Y if what we've detected doesn't find all your hardware', and if > they press Y (only), select as modules every ISA driver except > those, which when loaded on a system not containing the relevant > card, can cause a hangup; thus deferring the autoprobing until > boot time. Not a bad idea, but it conflicts with one of the goals of `make autoconfigurator', which is completely hands-off opration. Giacomo Catenazzi thinks he has collected enough "safe" probes to find effectively all ISA devices, by grovelling through various bits of /proc. So this problem may get solved directly. -- Eric S. Raymond Probably fewer than 2% of handguns and well under 1% of all guns will ever be involved in a violent crime. Thus, the problem of criminal gun violence is concentrated within a very small subset of gun owners, indicating that gun control aimed at the general population faces a serious needle-in-the-haystack problem. -- Gary Kleck, "Point Blank: Handgun Violence In America" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/