Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755352AbYFQJ1D (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:27:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751187AbYFQJ0w (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:26:52 -0400 Received: from 74-93-104-97-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([74.93.104.97]:40909 "EHLO sunset.davemloft.net" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751138AbYFQJ0w (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:26:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20080617.022652.76635616.davem@davemloft.net> To: mingo@elte.hu Cc: arjan@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, tglx@linutronix.de, linville@tuxdriver.com, davej@redhat.com, gregkh@suse.de Subject: Re: Oops report for the week preceding June 16th, 2008 From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <20080617092023.GA20621@elte.hu> References: <4856AFDF.5080901@linux.intel.com> <20080617092023.GA20621@elte.hu> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1354 Lines: 30 From: Ingo Molnar Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:20:23 +0200 > When distros feel the need to add large and risky patches that IMO shows > process failure on our part and further isolates mainline from distros > and from testers. You say this to the point where you sound like a broken record. It's a bit tiring, and nothing positive ever comes of these rants. And I think you massively oversimplify the situation, to top it off. On the wireless front, I severely doubt... in fact I know because I'm looking at every wireless merge going into my tree, that John Linville is not holding back new drivers submissions from the current 2.6.26 tree. Neither is Jeff Garzik for non-wireless net drivers. If the Fedora9 tree is based off of 2.6.25 or similar (it is), well that's how life works. Stuff gets backported from mainline into whatever they are using and stuff breaks from time to time. Did you investigate any of these facts to figure out what the specific situation is here? Or did some of your favorite keywords pop up Arjan's report so that you could unleash your favorite whine? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/