Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758718AbYF0QWA (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:22:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752537AbYF0QVx (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:21:53 -0400 Received: from accolon.hansenpartnership.com ([76.243.235.52]:54012 "EHLO accolon.hansenpartnership.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751604AbYF0QVw (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:21:52 -0400 Subject: KS Topic Proposal: Vendor and User problems with the Kernel From: James Bottomley To: ksummit-2008-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org Cc: linux-kernel Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:21:46 -0500 Message-Id: <1214583706.3394.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2138 Lines: 42 This proposal is a bit different from a concrete topic, but it's based on the generally positive feedback from the end user panel last year. It's to allocate 2h of Kernel summit to discuss problems raised by vendors and end users. The format I'm proposing is 10 minutes of problem introduction by someone from the vendor or user representative who is a subject matter expert and 20 minutes of discussion (so, hopefully four such problems). As usual, the difficulty is actually finding people from the vendor and user community willing to do such a presentation (and ensuring they won't simply want to talk about their problems with X distro enterprise kernels). The way I think we might get some diverse problems is to send out a call for participation. Something like. "The kernel summit programme committe is inviting proposals for participation in the 2008 Kernel Summit in Portland Oregon (URL) from members of the End User and Vendor communities wishing to raise particular issues or problems they see with the current Linux Kernel. A good problem presentation should stimulate discussion with the kernel community, and as such the presenter should be a subject matter expert capable of engaging in the debate. While the presenter may have a preferred solution, they should concentrate on the problem and be prepared to consider the effects of solutions outside of their preferred one. It goes without saying that problems should have a significant component which is susceptible to a solution within the Linux Kernel. "Proposals of around 500 words and describing the nature of the problem and the credentials of the presenter should be forwarded to the Linux Kernel Programme Committee at " Obviously we'd have to circulate this beyond the usual mailing lists, but we can solicit help from the Linux Foundation to do this. James -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/