Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755421AbYGDUyS (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:54:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752902AbYGDUyB (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:54:01 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([18.85.46.34]:38911 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752581AbYGDUyA (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:54:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" From: David Woodhouse To: David Miller Cc: jeff@garzik.org, andi@firstfloor.org, tytso@mit.edu, hugh@veritas.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, mchan@broadcom.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20080704.133721.98729739.davem@davemloft.net> References: <1215177044.10393.743.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <486E2260.5050503@garzik.org> <1215178035.10393.763.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20080704.133721.98729739.davem@davemloft.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:53:47 +0100 Message-Id: <1215204827.3189.13.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1028 Lines: 24 On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 13:37 -0700, David Miller wrote: > And for one, I have consistently argued that this "best practice" is > the "worst practice" from a technical perspective. It is the worst > because it means mistakes are possible to make between driver and > firmware versions. Even with versioning it is not fool proof. > Whereas if you link the firmware into the driver, it's impossible to > get wrong. And you've been wrong about that from the start, which is why the rest of the kernel has moved on while the drivers you control are left behind. But we've already stopped working on drivers/net; we're fixing the rest of the older drivers first. And every affected maintainer except you and Jeff seems _happy_ to see their drivers being brought up to date. -- dwmw2 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/