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On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 08:01:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote:
> christophe.barbe.ml@online.fr (christophe barb?)  wrote on 19.01.02 in <2=
0020119145132.GA972@online.fr>:
>=20
> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 05:18:57AM +0100, Andreas Bombe wrote:
> > > Whether that was an intended or accidental feature only someone with
> > > more insight into Unix history can answer.  It's that feature that le=
ts
> > > us do live upgrades of distributions without rebooting (executables a=
nd
> > > libraries can be replaced without affecting the currently running
> > > processes), at the very least much easier than it would be without th=
is
> > > behaviour.
> >
> > I remember that previous debian release come with a patched kernel to
> > allow live upgrade. It was explained in the FAQ that the patch was
> > required for this purpose.
>=20
> Complete and utter bullshit. This was never true, and the FAQ never =20
> claimed this.
>=20
> >    7.2 Debian claims to be able to update a running program;
> >       how is this accomplished?
>=20
> ... under which was originally explained how running demons would be =20
> restarted, and later it was also mentioned that replacing in-use files is=
 =20
> possible under Unix. Nothing more. (Google groups will happily find those=
 =20
> versions, they were in use from 1996 to 2001 according to the archive.)
>=20
> > What was in this patch?
>=20
> The patch only exists in your fantasy.

Ok you are right. I've checked old versions of this FAQ and this patch
only exists in my fantasy.

I take your 'Complete and utter bullshit' comment as a debian compliment
and not as an insult.

Christophe

>=20
> MfG Kai
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