Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755717AbYGEOAh (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:00:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751134AbYGEOA2 (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:00:28 -0400 Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com ([209.85.198.228]:40220 "EHLO rv-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750793AbYGEOA2 (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:00:28 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=sgHQa1oSO0INfTppSSQOCoI/zZymVyxLiRjBdghZ3SkghjhVag1Rl8u/vEpwOvaYkk 5pDsmkGQQLs3LaEup2YqFHl2nCz1dJGWOpZhTtNR6brO2qr50lvYHb6lcBJlxRKZKKGV ot3KmvofhcpbxSpB82H1EJrqPiS5QrQBD62hY= Message-ID: <31e679430807050700q765dc45ft198fcf1c0b91a9cc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:00:26 +0300 From: "Felipe Balbi" To: "Theodore Tso" , "Felipe Balbi" , "Kernel development list" , linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Battery life difference In-Reply-To: <20080705133601.GA20240@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <31e679430807050617u3fc706fasee9bb43a151c501f@mail.gmail.com> <20080705133601.GA20240@mit.edu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 81b5a32b7a501fad Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1958 Lines: 48 Hi, On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Theodore Tso wrote: > You didn't say which battery you are using; I'm guessing you are using > the 4 cell slim-line battery, which is rated at 28.8 Watt-hours? yeah, the normal slim-battery. > How many Watts is Powertop reporting that you are using? I'm down to eheh, it's only 15.5w :-p > around 8-9 watts, and around 9.5 watts in "airplane mail reading mail" > (wireless disabled, USB modules unloaded, screen brightness turned way > down, laptop_mode enabled, all mail messages pulled into memory, and > reading/deleting mail using mutt, a character-mode based mail reader > --- if you use Evolution, your energy usage will definitely be higher :-). no crappy evolution, I use fluxbox and mutt. This ubuntu machine is for testing purposes only :-p Anyways, it's bad that we have to manually unload several modules, specially usb. I'm sure windows reaches 9 watts consumption without breaking functionality. And that's the big thing. I think that's something we should be aiming. Dontcha think? > See http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2007/10/29/tip-o-the-hat-wag-o-the-finger-linux-power-savings-for-laptop-users/ Good article, but still. On the end user point of view, it's difficult to do rmmod/insmod operations. Recently I sent a patch to the bluez team adding a checkbox to bluetooth-properties that would send the SetMode("off") dbus message (which is the same as running hciconfig hci0 down). That helps a bit, but still the driver is not been used and keeps generating wakeup events. Why if it's not been used ? Maybe this is something we should start thinking about, right ? -- Best Regards, Felipe Balbi felipebalbi@users.sourceforge.net -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/