Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758059AbYGGTDs (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:03:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757649AbYGGTDg (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:03:36 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:48840 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757461AbYGGTDf (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:03:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:30:08 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Jeff Garzik Cc: David Woodhouse , Andi Kleen , David Miller , tytso@mit.edu, hugh@veritas.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, mchan@broadcom.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" Message-ID: <20080707193008.17795d61@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <48726734.7080601@garzik.org> References: <1215093175.10393.567.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20080703173040.GB30506@mit.edu> <1215111362.10393.651.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20080703.162120.206258339.davem@davemloft.net> <486D6DDB.4010205@infradead.org> <87ej6armez.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> <1215177044.10393.743.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <486E2260.5050503@garzik.org> <1215178035.10393.763.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <486E2818.1060003@garzik.org> <1215179161.10393.773.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <486E2E9B.20200@garzik.org> <20080704153822.4db2f325@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <48715807.8070605@garzik.org> <20080707165333.6347f564@the-village.bc.nu> <48725155.2040007@garzik.org> <20080707191359.11f6297f@the-village.bc.nu> <48726734.7080601@garzik.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1165 Lines: 26 On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:57:56 -0400 Jeff Garzik wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > >> When the firmware travels with the module, as it does today in tg3, bnx2 > >> and others, is the most reliable system available. The simplest, the > >> least amount of "parts", the easiest to upgrade, the best method to > >> guarantee driver/firmware version matches. It works wonderfully today. > >> > >> Is it difficult to see why someone might want to keep the same attributes? > > > > No I can see that, should be a simple matter of sending David patches. > > Isn't it David's obligation not to remove a highly reliable, working system? I don't see why it should be David's job to add every conceivable feature to the code. And this is the pot calling the kettle black. You badly broke Marvell PATA support by setting the Marvell SATA devices to AHCI. I note you've still not fixed that after some months. Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/