Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:16:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:15:55 -0500 Received: from hq.fsmlabs.com ([209.155.42.197]:63754 "EHLO hq.fsmlabs.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:15:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:15:06 -0700 From: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Peter_W=E4chtler?= Cc: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com, Daniel Phillips , george anzinger , Momchil Velikov , Arjan van de Ven , Roman Zippel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [2.4.17/18pre] VM and swap - it's really unusable Message-ID: <20020121101506.A14884@hq.fsmlabs.com> In-Reply-To: <20020121084344.A13455@hq.fsmlabs.com> <20020121090602.A13715@hq.fsmlabs.com> <3C4C42EE.BAEBE8CB@loewe-komp.de> <20020121094554.A14139@hq.fsmlabs.com> <3C4C4C1A.9F7CE37@loewe-komp.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3C4C4C1A.9F7CE37@loewe-komp.de>; from pwaechtler@loewe-komp.de on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 06:12:58PM +0100 Organization: FSM Labs Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 06:12:58PM +0100, Peter W?chtler wrote: > > Since the preemption patch only allows additional preemption in kernel > > mode, I'm curious to know what the compute bound tasks are doing in > > kernel mode. Did Linux add in-kernel matrix multiplication while > > I was not looking? > > > > Dead right you are. > Then there are only slow system calls left. Umh, execve(), fork() > (with big address space) - what about page_launder etc.? Those are, in some sense, I/O right? It's not clear to me that preempting page_launder is sensible. > But what is a possible explanation for the people, who think their > systems behave better with preemption - strong believe? Beats me. Maybe it really does work - but maybe not and nobody has advanced any analysis or numbers that make the case. -- --------------------------------------------------------- Victor Yodaiken Finite State Machine Labs: The RTLinux Company. www.fsmlabs.com www.rtlinux.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/