Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756243AbYGOIMG (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:12:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754305AbYGOILv (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:11:51 -0400 Received: from ozlabs.org ([203.10.76.45]:43777 "EHLO ozlabs.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753570AbYGOILt (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:11:49 -0400 From: Rusty Russell To: Max Krasnyansky Subject: Re: [PATCH] stopmachine: add stopmachine_timeout Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:09:59 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 Cc: Heiko Carstens , Jeremy Fitzhardinge , Christian Borntraeger , Hidetoshi Seto , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, Zachary Amsden References: <487B05CE.1050508@jp.fujitsu.com> <20080714212026.GA6705@osiris.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> <487C0A76.8060401@qualcomm.com> In-Reply-To: <487C0A76.8060401@qualcomm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807151810.00365.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1745 Lines: 36 On Tuesday 15 July 2008 12:24:54 Max Krasnyansky wrote: > Heiko Carstens wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:56:18AM -0700, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote: > > This is asking for trouble... a config option to disable this would be > > nice. But as I don't know which problem this patch originally addresses > > it might be that this is needed anyway. So lets see why we need it first. > > How about this. We'll make this a sysctl, as Rusty already did, and set the > default to 0 which means "never timeout". That way crazy people like me who > care about this scenario can enable this feature. Indeed, this was my thought too. s390 can initialize it to zero somewhere in their boot code. > btw Rusty, I just had this "why didn't I think of that" moments. This is > actually another way of handling my workload. I mean it certainly does not > fix the root case of the problems and we still need other things that we > talked about (non-blocking module delete, lock-free module insertion, etc) > but at least in the mean time it avoids wedging the machines for good. > btw I'd like that timeout in milliseconds. I think 5 seconds is way tooooo > long :). We can make it ms, sure. 200ms should be plenty of time: worst I ever saw was 150ms, and that was some weird Power box doing crazy stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if you'd never see 1ms on your hardware. The ipi idea would handle your case a little more nicely, too, but that's probably not going to hit this merge window. Cheers, Rusty. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/