Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761646AbYGOQIb (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:08:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758362AbYGOQIG (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:08:06 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:52317 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758326AbYGOQIF (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:08:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:07:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: pageexec@freemail.hu cc: Greg KH , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@kernel.org Subject: Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10 In-Reply-To: <487CDEDD.21049.1ACFDAEA@pageexec.freemail.hu> Message-ID: References: <20080703185727.GA12617@suse.de>, <487C242B.19490.17F690F7@pageexec.freemail.hu>, <487CDEDD.21049.1ACFDAEA@pageexec.freemail.hu> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1292 Lines: 31 On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, pageexec@freemail.hu wrote: > > by 'cover up' i meant that even when you know better, you quite > consciously do *not* report the security impact of said bugs Yes. Because the only place I consider appropriate is the kernel changelogs, and since those get published with the sources, there is no way I can convince myself that it's a good idea to say "Hey script kiddies, try this" unless it's already very public indeed. > see my comment about reality above. heck, even linux vendors do track > and announce them, it's part of the support they provide to paying > customers (and even non-paying users). Umm. And they mostly do a crap job at it, only focusing on a small percentage (the ones that were considered to be "big issues"), and because they do the reporting they also feel they have to have embargoes in place. That's why I don't do reporting - it almost inevitably leads to embargoes. So as far as I'm concerned, "disclosing" is the fixing of the bug. It's the "look at the source" approach. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/