Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761853AbYGOSUu (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:20:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754060AbYGOSUm (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:20:42 -0400 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:47241 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753688AbYGOSUl (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:20:41 -0400 Message-ID: <487CEA73.9000408@garzik.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:20:35 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: david@lang.hm, Arjan van de Ven , Andrew Morton , David Woodhouse , alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [GIT *] Allow request_firmware() to be satisfied from in-kernel, use it in more drivers. References: <1216077806.27455.85.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20080714164119.99c33d5b.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080714165956.7fe2d4ee@infradead.org> <487C585C.2060002@garzik.org> <487CD7FE.9010209@garzik.org> <487CDEC0.3090004@garzik.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.2.5 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.4 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1029 Lines: 29 Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: >> Already addressed -- you and David seem to be ignoring the common case where >> you may update the driver but not the kernel, making that feature far less >> useful than it appears. > > This is the "I'm too stupid to live" argument. I've already answered that. > What's so hard with "make firmware_install"? So hard that several kernel hackers wound up with non-working drivers (read the pre-push bug reports). Which is why 'make modules_install' installs the firmware, or at least it did before David W pushed upstream. That was a key build process regression fix (thanks David!). Sorry Linus, the end change is a good idea, but you cannot hand-wave away breakage just by calling people stupid. Jeff -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/