Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762294AbYGOSlE (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:41:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755888AbYGOSkj (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:40:39 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:35503 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755285AbYGOSkh (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:40:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Linux Wireless Mini-Summit -- Ottawa -- July 22, 2008 From: Dan Williams To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: Michael Buesch , Stefanik =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor?= , "John W. Linville" , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, lkml In-Reply-To: References: <20080709190915.GA8238@tuxdriver.com> <69e28c910807100912h30fcb57fpb4fb48b95c640f77@mail.gmail.com> <200807101815.27204.mb@bu3sch.de> <1216142191.6039.113.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1216144711.13411.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:38:38 -0400 Message-Id: <1216147118.13411.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1502 Lines: 33 On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 14:14 -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Dan Williams wrote: > > > Some of the issues with the current Marvell 83xx GPL drivers that have > > gotten out are (a) code style, (b) lots of commented out stuff that's > > never used, (c) OS abstraction that's unnecessary on Linux, (d) doesn't > > use mac80211, and (e) uses private ioctls. So hopefully you're writing > > a new 83xx driver from scratch :) > > Yes, this is all from scratch. The objective for this work is to be > "mainlinable". > > > We cleaned up a lot of stuff for the OLPC 8388 libertas driver, but > > unfortunately we never were able to get the Marvell 8388 team onboard, > > and so they just went off and kept working on their driver and didn't > > really move the upstream libertas driver forward at all. > > Libertas is a rather different beast. Obviously; this was just an observation about the last time we got a wireless driver from Marvell. I expect it to work out rather differently this time simply on the strength of your and Lennert's track-record, but if it's really just you two guys and you don't have buy-in from the actual hardware and software teams inside Marvell, it's hard to see how this wouldn't just happen again. Dan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/