Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756412AbYGOS4A (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:56:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756818AbYGOSzl (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:55:41 -0400 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:42005 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756616AbYGOSzk (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:55:40 -0400 Message-ID: <487CF29E.5000009@garzik.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:55:26 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh , Frans Pop , arjan@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, dwmw2@infradead.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [GIT *] Allow request_firmware() to be satisfied from in-kernel, use it in more drivers. References: <1216077806.27455.85.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20080714164119.99c33d5b.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080714165956.7fe2d4ee@infradead.org> <487C0365.5030203@garzik.org> <487C0365.5030203@garzik.org> <200807151757.10626.elendil@planet.nl> <20080715180535.GA6080@khazad-dum.debian.net> <487CE917.3000000@garzik.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.2.5 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.4 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1328 Lines: 41 Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: > >> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Frans Pop wrote: >>>> If I were able to compile firmware into the modules, the problem would be >>>> solved in one go. >>> And this thread would have been shorter, even. I hope someone decides to >>> write that support instead of complaining ;-) >> I've volunteered -- but if Linus and David will reject my code out of hand, >> there is not much point in writing it. > > Quite frankly, I don't think it's something to reject out of hand, but it > does sound pretty damn stupid. > > Why compile them into the module, when that's just the _inflexible_ model? Because it works today. Because that is what people and their scripts expect, today. Because people should not be forced to fix all their firmware-related breakage immediately, just to boot 2.6.27. > I'm not seeing why you cannot accept change. It is highly feasible to do the change without breaking stuff and removing choice. Beer can be great tasting AND less filling. Jeff -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/