Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:16:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: pageexec@freemail.hu
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Subject: Re: [stable] Linux 2.6.25.10
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, pageexec@freemail.hu wrote:
> 
> in other words, try a better argument, possibly without bogeymen.

You know what - when nobody does embargoes, I'll consider your argument to 
have a point.

In the meantime, I'm not in the least interested in your idiotic 
arguments. Especially as you can't even read what I wrote:

> i don't see you embargo normal bug fixes, why would you embargo security
> bug fixes? they're just normal bugs, aren't they?

Exactly. I don't embargo them. I refuse to have anything to even _do_ with 
organizations like vendor-sec that I think is a corrupt cluster-fuck of 
people who just want to cover their own ass.

They're just normal bugs.

But that also doesn't mean that I see any reason to make it obvious what 
to do to trigger them, and cause problems at universities and such. So I 
don't do "here's how to exploit it" commit logs, for example.

(If you haven't been at a univerisity, you don't know how many smart young 
people want to "try it to see". And if you have been there, and don't 
think it's a problem when they do and wouldn't be happier if they didn't, 
you probably don't know what the word "empathy" means).

			Linus
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