Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762984AbYGOTkG (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:40:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757698AbYGOTjy (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:39:54 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:51253 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757902AbYGOTjx (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:39:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Marcel Holtmann cc: Frans Pop , jeff@garzik.org, arjan@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, dwmw2@infradead.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [GIT *] Allow request_firmware() to be satisfied from in-kernel, use it in more drivers. In-Reply-To: <1216150288.27242.75.camel@violet.holtmann.net> Message-ID: References: <1216077806.27455.85.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20080714164119.99c33d5b.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080714165956.7fe2d4ee@infradead.org> <487C0365.5030203@garzik.org> <487C0365.5030203@garzik.org> <200807151757.10626.elendil@planet.nl> <1216149637.27242.65.camel@violet.holtmann.net> <1216150288.27242.75.camel@violet.holtmann.net> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1122 Lines: 28 On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > > Personally I am against hacking file loading from within the kernel. > This is why we involved udev (or hotplug in the beginning). It allows > you to have userspace policy for the search paths etc. Well, I'm personally against _forcing_ people to use udev. Yes, desktop distros generally will do so, since there are lots of complex issues etc. But I don't think we've generally forced it on people if they don't want it (ie I haven't tried it personally since the distro I used started using udev, but I think you can still just ignore udev events and set everything up statically). And I don't think that's wrong. Which implies that setup things should still generally at least allow us to avoid udev. (But maybe I'm wrong, and everybody already uses udev just because they couldn't be bothered not to). Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/