Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:45:35 -0400
To: Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
       ceph-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Recursive directory accounting for size, ctime, etc.
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 02:16:45PM -0700, Sage Weil wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > I just wonder how one would explain to users (or application writers)
> > why changes to a file are reflected in the parent's rctime in one case,
> > and not in another, especially if the primary link is otherwise
> > indistinguishable from the others.  The symptoms could be a bit
> > mysterious from their point of view.
> 
> Yes.  I'm not sure it can really be avoided, though.  I'm trying to lift 
> the usual restriction of having to predefine what the 
> volume/subvolume/qtree boundary is and then disallowing links/renames 
> between then.  When all of a file's links are contained within the 
> directory you're looking at (i.e. something that might be a subvolume 
> under that paradigm), things look sensible.  If links span two directories 
> and you're looking at recursive stats for a dir containing only one of 
> them, then you're necessarily going to have some weirdness (you don't want 
> to double-count).

Yeah, there's no clear right answer--that's partly why I was curious
about rctime specifically.

--b.
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