Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:11:42 -0600
From: Alex Chiang <achiang@hp.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/14] Introduce cpu_enabled_map and friends
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* Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:16:32PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:57:40AM -0600, Alex Chiang wrote:
> > > My thought was that big SMP systems like ia64, possibly sparc and
> > > ppc, and increasingly, x86, might find something like this
> > > useful, as systems get larger and larger, and vendors are going
> > > to want to do RAS-ish features, like the ability to keep CPUs in
> > > firmware across reboots until told otherwise by the sysadmin.
> > > 
> > > Right now, a 'present' CPU strongly implies 'online' as well,
> > > since we're calling cpu_up() for all 'present' CPUs in
> > > smp_init(). But this hurts if:
> > > 
> > > 	- you don't actually want to bring up all 'present' CPUs
> > > 	- you still want to interact with these weirdo zombie
> > > 	  CPUs that are 'present' but not 'online'
> > 
> > Have you considered simply failing __cpu_up() for CPUs that are
> > deconfigured by firmware?
> 
> But what if you want to have a system boot with, say, 4 CPUs and
> then decide at run time to bring up another 4 CPUs when required?
> 
> How about having smp_init() call into arch code to query whether
> it should bring up a not-already-online CPU?  Architectures that
> want to do something special can then make the decision there and
> everyone else can define the test completely away.

I experimented today with an ia64-only solution, keeping track of
'present' vs 'enabled' vs 'online' all in arch-specific code.

The arch-specific stuff turns out to be more or less a wash; that
is, it's not too hard to keep it all in ia64.

However, the problem is, I would still need a generic
'enabled_map' to control whether 'online' and 'crash_notes'
entries get created for /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/.

So if other archs are at least neutral on this class of CPUs, I
can work on another patchset that lowers the tax to a simple
#define for archs that don't care.

But if people hate this idea of a new map, I'd like to know so
that I'm not wasting my time and can work on a different solution
(what that would be, I have no idea at the moment).

Thanks.

/ac

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