Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756475AbYGQLWT (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:22:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752534AbYGQLWK (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:22:10 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:58595 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752334AbYGQLWJ convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:22:09 -0400 To: "Morton Harrow" Cc: "Miod Vallat" , licensing@fsf.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rms@gnu.org, claire.newman@canonical.com, announce@fsfeurope.org, misc@openbsd.org, ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com, fedora-list@redhat.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL version 4 References: <20080716213115.C747F7BC45@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat Operating System Tools Group Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:21:28 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20080716213115.C747F7BC45@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> (Morton Harrow's message of "Thu\, 17 Jul 2008 05\:31\:15 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1959 Lines: 45 On Jul 16, 2008, "Morton Harrow" wrote: > I see with pain in my heart that the GPLv3 doesn't actually give the > users of GPLv3 software the liberty and freedom the FSF has been > fighting for. Instead they are forced to play by the strict set of > terms the GPLv3 provides. > For example, as a liberated computer user, I might like to incorporate > a high quality piece of GPLv3 software in a commercial product, You can do that. There are lots of commercial products containing GPLv3 software out there. > which for bussiness strategic reasons happens to be closed source software. > But the GPLv3 denies my claim for this freedom to do this. You are mistaken in several levels. 1. Disrespecting others' freedoms is not a matter of freedom, it's a matter of power. 2. Nothing in the GPL prevents you from doing any of this. If there is something that prevents you from doing this, it's copyright law. You won't find prohibitions in the GPL. 3. If you're unable to combine third-party GPL-incompatible software with GPL software, it's because the third party prevented you from doing this, and you accepted it. Don't blame the GPL for your acceptance of such terms. 4. If you decide to not release your own code under the GPL, even though this stops you from releasing the program you wrote with help from other authors who chose the GPL, that's your decision. Don't blame the GPL for the consequences of your own decisions. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! => http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/