Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759984AbYGQPDw (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:03:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757034AbYGQPDm (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:03:42 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:55112 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755969AbYGQPDl (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:03:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Andi Kleen cc: Jesse Barnes , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Please pull ACPI updates In-Reply-To: <487EE940.1050007@firstfloor.org> Message-ID: References: <20080716214516.GA10777@basil.nowhere.org> <200807170011.12184.rjw@sisk.pl> <200807161633.01375.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> <487EE940.1050007@firstfloor.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2012 Lines: 46 On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Andi Kleen wrote: > > My plan was to keep everything in quilt and just regenerate for the pull. > Please let me know if it's now not allowed anymore to use quilt. End-point developers can use quilt all thei like. But people cannot and *MUST NOT* destroy other peoples work with quilt, nor make it harder for people to share commits. Len had apparently left a nice topic tree for you. You took that work, and then destroyed it. And yes, it is noticeable: Jesse had shared some of the work from Len by pulling one of the branches (the 'suspend' branch), and then you literally re-wrote _public_ history, so now tohose patches are duplicated. Now, duplicate patches happen, and that's not a huge technical issue (most of the time it all merges cleanly, and it was just three patches this time), but if you're going to rebase stuff, you're basically making it impossible for people to share work with you. They can never rely on your git trees, because your git threes are all throw-away. Btw, being throw-away also means that they get essentially no testing. They get rewritten each time, so even if you expose them to something like linux-next and they get testing there, when you rebase them, the end result is something *different*, and a lot of the test coverage goes away. See the discussion from May about the x86 tree. I don't have it online in my archives any more, but google finds http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Git_Management which has at least a big part of the discussion in one readable page. So no, there's nothing wrong with a quilt interface. But there _is_ something wrong with a maintainer that makes it harder for other people (in this case Jesse) to work with him, because he destroys history. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/