Subject: Re: 22bb1be4d27... breaks hal (and NM)
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Pierre Ossman <drzeus-list@drzeus.cx>,
       "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
       Jean Tourrilhes <jt@hpl.hp.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
       Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:57:11 +0200
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On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 13:38 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 11:58 +0200, Pierre Ossman wrote:
> > From commit 22bb1be4d27...:
> > 
> > "The /sys/class/net/*/wireless/ direcory is, as far as I know, not used
> > by anyone."
> > 
> > Can't have been much of an investigation as HAL uses these to determine
> > if a card is a wireless one. Without this option, you cannot get
> > wireless support in NetworkManager, stranding most laptops.
> 
> Bzzzzt. You suck. Go check again. Hint: try hal's git tree.

So you're not considering HAL as shipped by most (if not all) distros as
anyone?

If everybody would act like that, the next kernel wouldn't even manage
to get rudimentary user-space up and running. Like we already changed
all those systemcalls in glibc-head, who needs this kernel to boot on
your old stuff anyway..

Common,.. this is rediculous.

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