Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756520AbYGXMJY (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:09:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752010AbYGXMJQ (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:09:16 -0400 Received: from xc.sipsolutions.net ([83.246.72.84]:37821 "EHLO sipsolutions.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751696AbYGXMJQ (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:09:16 -0400 Subject: Re: 22bb1be4d27... breaks hal (and NM) From: Johannes Berg To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Pierre Ossman , "John W. Linville" , Jean Tourrilhes , LKML , Andrew Morton In-Reply-To: <1216900631.7257.321.camel@twins> References: <20080724115805.5466c217@mjolnir.drzeus.cx> <1216899520.13587.49.camel@johannes.berg> <1216900631.7257.321.camel@twins> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-KipZdDiOwxQBs3VOuP+c" Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:08:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1216901290.13587.54.camel@johannes.berg> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2198 Lines: 55 --=-KipZdDiOwxQBs3VOuP+c Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 13:57 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > So you're not considering HAL as shipped by most (if not all) distros as > anyone? >=20 > If everybody would act like that, the next kernel wouldn't even manage > to get rudimentary user-space up and running. Like we already changed > all those systemcalls in glibc-head, who needs this kernel to boot on > your old stuff anyway.. >=20 > Common,.. this is rediculous. What the hell is wrong with you guys? I used to think it's accepted practice to introduce a config option you can change away from the default if you already know you are using new software that doesn't need it, and if you are clueless just don't fucking touch the default until I decide it's time to flip the default/remove the option because distros are shipping new versions of the dependent software. johannes --=-KipZdDiOwxQBs3VOuP+c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Johannes Berg (powerbook) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJIiHCmAAoJEKVg1VMiehFYpJMQAI+5+Llx7f89zQDTqvPUWQnn bvf2h9OTncMHY1DhAQh6l4H20rn5se16blwtBBK/L2PC3F5LylMqm64GMB83bBgo wjnudYqBO2NpPCXwTUexubBFsiatuFKp21gU8dbgo+9F+vSgbgDxoHySOJhqLZ5r LLgfDyya7u8rjIUXoLFuyOQD4gTZFfDjZ0DLSymst8uVnHCj1X/Wmy8hmjvon8+0 Do/eyJrf394pGJFPtkKpSwaj4uZBNIf4Z7eH3oj1pTP7e5PoiubmedefRJ17ziU8 /F2HrEy91E2YPkjBbckLSd73oUcxTO8tZR/gut2Zp+sU0q1CizQc82VYDU/n5agb pz+Q4icuQCb5zDTVIq4aVYRRfWKuZ9SyFQrc1CcrTKzgK8NITTDINJGuEoMASwJH u+5EPhMBzpENCoxc6QilJ35yZkd+xo3Wh5fQM3Wmv1gcuJLr4+IH7uwUuCqL4Epp LfoBryfAgFYtfaHPHHeP8Qz9IegKPoDZNeYSLWnS9Yy4KgopYDeItmbeVX4XtuTy tKIa/rn+GSj99i6LCbWyRWBlYvtyTes1uE69CJ9smaaHITu5GjNs1PkgUnGewbfE Agu3066BBqg41CzjygJl5C27ARyZxwpsqlgT/Bvk4yZwKxkWyj7fVoc0+g31UaF5 Br5xFBXBhso1QfGjgL34 =7AjK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-KipZdDiOwxQBs3VOuP+c-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/