Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753694AbYG2ENw (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:13:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750907AbYG2ENn (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:13:43 -0400 Received: from BISCAYNE-ONE-STATION.MIT.EDU ([18.7.7.80]:58629 "EHLO biscayne-one-station.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750897AbYG2ENm (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:13:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:13:37 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Jon Smirl Cc: Al Viro , lkml Subject: Re: 463 kernel developers missing! Message-ID: <20080729041337.GC9378@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Jon Smirl , Al Viro , lkml References: <488E0BB6.7020006@simon.arlott.org.uk> <9e4733910807281119m10f9b6e3v98fc892a42476c86@mail.gmail.com> <488E1147.5040803@simon.arlott.org.uk> <9e4733910807281200m25f7f16bwa6678694bb25a61@mail.gmail.com> <20080729011526.GF28946@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <9e4733910807281825v42f9700al420ba48aebf3d790@mail.gmail.com> <20080729013650.GG28946@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <9e4733910807281901i1a39ce93v902dd6bd240e1a34@mail.gmail.com> <20080729025016.GT9378@mit.edu> <9e4733910807282023h5479c755wde55e2324909b678@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9e4733910807282023h5479c755wde55e2324909b678@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.00 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2090 Lines: 39 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:23:31PM -0400, Jon Smirl wrote: > The kernel already has a mailmap file, but it is not complete. So I > should just take this work that makes the mailmap file a lot better > and throw it away? The policy is that the log file should be messed up > enough so that a computer can't process it and that a human can > recover it only with several day's effort? That's a really hard line > to define and we'll probably lose the identity of a bunch of > contributors. I'll follow up with a patch that deletes the current > .mailmap Personally, I have no objection to the mailmap file as it's on the whole an improvement; if it's been automatically generated and it falsely maps multiple people to a single person, that would be highly unfortunate, but maybe it fixes more problems than it creates. I think the part most people are seriously objecting to is that the supposition that Linus and some of his top lieutenants should be enforcing some arbitrary rule that rejects commits if they come from addresses outside of your .mailmap file (unless they first send a patch to add their e-mail address to the .mailmap file), in some kind of misguided attempt to enforce validation, which apparently the main justification for which is so that you and others can runs some statistical analysis, of which there seems to be some dispute whether or not encouraging people to compete to get into the top 20 signed-off-by by splitting up commits into 100 different micro-patches should be considered a desirable side effect of said statistical analysis. As I said earlier, the moment you started advocating enforcing validation, you may have started to confuse which is the tail and which is the dog. People should be supplying patches to improve the kernel; not to provide accurate fodder for statistical analysis. - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/