Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759897AbYG3Wt5 (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:49:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754251AbYG3Wtr (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:49:47 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:44690 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751587AbYG3Wtq (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:49:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:32:29 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: davids@webmaster.com Cc: "Stefan Richter" , "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: Re: 463 kernel developers missing! Message-ID: <20080730233229.5ebe4465@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4890C5E2.3030501@s5r6.in-berlin.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1978 Lines: 41 > Precisely. And others who wish to exercise rights under the GPL forfeit any > legal mechanism (whether copyright, DMCA, contract, data privacy laws, or > whatever theory) to impose "further restrictions" on those who wish to > similarly use GPL works. I don't know where you get that paticular idea from. Try sending GPL code from the USA to Cuba. Seems the US government is using GPL code but imposing further restrictions... > have no control. But you cannot invoke copyright -- or any other law -- to > restrict someone else's exercise of rights granter by the GPL. You get > copyright, but you give up it all. No "further restrictions", period. Some rights in laws are absolute. I cannot "give up" my right to be identified as the author of a work I create in many countries. Its an absolute. > When you submit a unit to a GPL project, you place that unit under the GPL. > That is what the DCoO is trying to say. There cannot be some things that > some parts of the GPL apply to and some don't. There is no "sort of GPL, > sort of not" that applies to some parts of some submissions. If something is > part of or all of a submission made under the GPL, then all of the GPL > applies to it. The metadata licensing isn't clear in my view. I think what you are more likely to get sensible results with is arguing estoppel ? That was always the intent of that DCO wording. To ensure that rights or otherwise you couldn't turn around and say "hey you published my name and I didn't expect that implied by my actions". However publishing a name and performing data processing on personal data databases for other purposes is not the same thing at least in some jurisdictions. In the EU you collect data "for a purpose". Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/