Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758275AbYGaCgQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:36:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753377AbYGaCgA (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:36:00 -0400 Received: from mailhub249.itcs.purdue.edu ([128.210.5.249]:37353 "EHLO mailhub249.itcs.purdue.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752300AbYGaCf7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:35:59 -0400 From: Michael Shuey Reply-To: shuey@purdue.edu Organization: Purdue University ITaP/RCS To: Shehjar Tikoo Subject: Re: high latency NFS Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:35:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, rees@citi.umich.edu, aglo@citi.umich.edu References: <200807241311.31457.shuey@purdue.edu> <20080730192110.GA17061@fieldses.org> <4890DFC7.3020309@cse.unsw.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <4890DFC7.3020309@cse.unsw.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807302235.50068.shuey@purdue.edu> X-PMX-Version: 5.4.0.320885 X-PerlMx-Virus-Scanned: Yes Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 5925 Lines: 126 Thanks for all the tips I've received this evening. However, I figured out the problem late last night. :-) I was only using the default 8 nfsd threads on the server. When I raised this to 256, the read bandwidth went from about 6 MB/sec to about 95 MB/sec, at 100ms of netem-induced latency. Not too shabby. I can get about 993 Mbps on the gigE link between client and server, or 124 MB/sec max, so this is about 76% of wire speed. Network connections pass through three switches, at least one of which acts as a router, so I'm feeling pretty good about things so far. FYI, the server is using an ext3 file system, on top of a 10 GB /dev/ram0 ramdisk (exported async, mounted async). Oddly enough, /dev/ram0 seems a bit slower than tmpfs and a loopback-mounted file - go figure. To avoid confusing this with cache effects, I'm using iozone on an 8GB file from a client with only 4GB of memory. Like I said, I'm mainly interested in large file performance. :-) -- Mike Shuey Purdue University/ITaP On Wednesday 30 July 2008, Shehjar Tikoo wrote: > J. Bruce Fields wrote: > > You might get more responses from the linux-nfs list (cc'd). > > > > --b. > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 01:11:31PM -0400, Michael Shuey wrote: > >> I'm currently toying with Linux's NFS, to see just how fast it > >> can go in a high-latency environment. Right now, I'm simulating > >> a 100ms delay between client and server with netem (just 100ms > >> on the outbound packets from the client, rather than 50ms each > >> way). Oddly enough, I'm running into performance problems. :-) > >> > >> According to iozone, my server can sustain about 90/85 MB/s > >> (reads/writes) without any latency added. After a pile of > >> tweaks, and injecting 100ms of netem latency, I'm getting 6/40 > >> MB/s (reads/writes). I'd really like to know why writes are now > >> so much faster than reads, and what sort of things might boost > >> the read throughput. Any suggestions? > > Is the server sync or async mounted? I've seen such performance > inversion between read and write when the mount mode is async. > > What is the number of nfsd threads at the server? > > Which file system are you using at the server? > > >> 1 The read throughput seems to be proportional to the latency - > >> adding only 10ms of delay gives 61 MB/s reads, in limited testing > >> (need to look at it further). While that's to be expected, to > >> some extent, I'm hoping there's some form of readahead that can > >> help me out here (assume big sequential reads). > >> > >> iozone is reading/writing a file twice the size of memory on the > >> client with a 32k block size. I've tried raising this as high > >> as 16 MB, but I still see around 6 MB/sec reads. > > In iozone, are you running the read and write test during the same run > of iozone? Iozone runs read tests, after writes so that the file for > the read test exists on the server. You should try running write and > read tests in separate runs to prevent client side caching issues from > influencing raw server read(and read-ahead) performance. You can use > the -w option in iozone to prevent iozone from calling unlink on the > file after the write test has finished, so you can use the same file > in a separate read test run. > > >> I'm using a 2.6.9 derivative (yes, I'm a RHEL4 fan). Testing > >> with a stock 2.6, client and server, is the next order of > >> business. > > You can try building the kernel with oprofile support and use it to > measure where the client CPU is spending its time. It is possible that > client-side locking or other algorithm issues are resulting in such > low read throughput. Note, when you start oprofile profiling, use a > CPU_CYCLES count of 5000. I've observed more accurate results with > this sample size for NFS performance. > > >> NFS mount is tcp, version 3. rsize/wsize are 32k. Both client > >> and server have had tcp_rmem, tcp_wmem, wmem_max, rmem_max, > >> wmem_default, and rmem_default tuned - tuning values are 12500000 > >> for defaults (and minimum window sizes), 25000000 for the > >> maximums. Inefficient, yes, but I'm not concerned with memory > >> efficiency at the moment. > >> > >> Both client and server kernels have been modified to provide > >> larger-than-normal RPC slot tables. I allow a max of 1024, but > >> I've found that actually enabling more than 490 entries in /proc > >> causes mount to complain it can't allocate memory and die. That > >> was somewhat suprising, given I had 122 GB of free memory at the > >> time... > >> > >> I've also applied a couple patches to allow the NFS readahead to > >> be a tunable number of RPC slots. Currently, I set this to 489 > >> on client and server (so it's one less than the max number of > >> RPC slots). Bandwidth delay product math says 380ish slots > >> should be enough to keep a gigabit line full, so I suspect > >> something else is preventing me from seeing the readahead I > >> expect. > >> > >> FYI, client and server are connected via gigabit ethernet. > >> There's a couple routers in the way, but they talk at 10gigE and > >> can route wire speed. Traffic is IPv4, path MTU size is 9000 > >> bytes. > > The following are not completely relevant here but just to get some > more info: > What is the raw TCP throughput that you get between the server and > client machine on this network? > > You could run the tests with bare minimum number of network > elements between the server and the client to see whats the best > network performance for NFS you can extract from this server and > client machine. > > >> Is there anything I'm missing? > >> > >> -- Mike Shuey Purdue University/ITaP -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/