Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757923AbYGaWT7 (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:19:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755931AbYGaWTr (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:19:47 -0400 Received: from ogre.sisk.pl ([217.79.144.158]:57564 "EHLO ogre.sisk.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755645AbYGaWTq (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:19:46 -0400 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Linux v2.6.27-rc1: linux-next Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:22:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) Cc: Linus Torvalds , Jesse Barnes , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Stephen Rothwell References: <20080730020308.a552c4d8.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20080730020308.a552c4d8.akpm@linux-foundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200808010022.37049.rjw@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1834 Lines: 47 On Wednesday, 30 of July 2008, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > - I don't think the 'next' thing works as well for the occasional > > developer that just has a few patches pending as it works for subsystem > > maintainers that are used to it. > > Those people's patches are in -mm, which now holds maybe 100 or more > "trees", many of which are small or empty. > > My project within the next couple of weeks is to get most of that > material into linux-next. Stephen will be involved ;) > > > IOW, I think 'next' needs enough infrastructure setup from the > > developer side that I don't think it's reasonable for _everything_ to > > go through next. > > True. But > > a) some of the problematic changes which we've seen simply _should_ > have been in linux-next. Some of them were even coming from > developers whose trees are already in linux-next. > > b) A lot of the bugs which hit your tree would have been quickly > found in linux-next too. > > > But it's all shuffling deckchairs, really. Are we actually merging > better code as a reasult of all of this? Are we being more careful and > reviewing better and testing better? > > Don't think so. Well, if the number of the regressions list entries can be regarded as a pointer, then yes, we are. :-) There are 28 entries in there right now, compared to 53 entries initially in the list during the 2.6.26 cycle (see http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11167 for reference). Thanks, Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/