Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756098AbYHAHSR (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Aug 2008 03:18:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751120AbYHAHR7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Aug 2008 03:17:59 -0400 Received: from metis.extern.pengutronix.de ([83.236.181.26]:42737 "EHLO metis.extern.pengutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750925AbYHAHR7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Aug 2008 03:17:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:17:27 +0200 From: Robert Schwebel To: Josh Boyer Cc: Ulrich Teichert , Tim Bird , David Miller , dwmw2@infradead.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org, michael@free-electrons.com Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features Message-ID: <20080801071727.GI8254@pengutronix.de> References: <200807311850.m6VIoqCE015883@arbas.nms.ulrich-teichert.org> <1217533588.2328.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1217533588.2328.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Sent-From: Pengutronix Entwicklungszentrum Nord - Hildesheim X-URL: http://www.pengutronix.de/ X-IRC: #ptxdist @freenode X-Accept-Language: de,en X-Accept-Content-Type: text/plain X-Impressum: Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 Hannoversche Str. 2, 31134 Hildesheim, Germany Phone: +49-5121-206917-0 | Fax: +49-5121-206917-9 Inhaber: Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel X-Message-Flag: See Message Headers for Impressum X-Uptime: 09:13:21 up 30 days, 19:56, 13 users, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.04 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 10.1.0.65 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: rsc@pengutronix.de X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on metis.extern.pengutronix.de); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1447 Lines: 34 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:46:28PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > I do not think of NTP as desktop or server application, but that's > > probably just me, > > No, it's not just you. NTP is useful in cases where things do care > about time but hardware designers were too cheap to put an RTC on the > board. Yes, we also have such customer systems, i.e. one which is used in a Telemetry application where you can have hundrets of PXA270 data concentrators that collect data from FPGAs and push them to a PC via ethernet. As the system does not work without the PC, the hardware designers decided that they can save hundrets of RTCs. Or another autonomous data collection system where only one system of several tens has an RTC... We used chrony in these cases, as the standard ntputils seem to be optimized for scenarios where you have permanent network connection, which is often not the case in embedded applications. rsc -- Dipl.-Ing. Robert Schwebel | http://www.pengutronix.de Pengutronix - Linux Solutions for Science and Industry Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 Hannoversche Str. 2, 31134 Hildesheim, Germany Phone: +49-5121-206917-0 | Fax: +49-5121-206917-9 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/