Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 03:40:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 03:40:28 -0500 Received: from khms.westfalen.de ([62.153.201.243]:15802 "EHLO khms.westfalen.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 03:40:14 -0500 Date: 25 Jan 2002 09:14:00 +0200 From: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen) To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <8HXjQZVXw-B@khms.westfalen.de> In-Reply-To: <20011218223059.J16865@main.templetons.com> Subject: Re: draft-ietf-usefor-article-06 and last call X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.12d.kh8 R/C435 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Organisation? Me?! Are you kidding? In-Reply-To: <87ellrivy7.fsf@erlenstar.demon.co.uk> <20011218135343.V8034@main.templetons.com> <87ellrivy7.fsf@erlenstar.demon.co.uk> <20011218223059.J16865@main.templetons.com> X-No-Junk-Mail: I do not want to get *any* junk mail. Comment: Unsolicited commercial mail will incur an US$100 handling fee per received mail. X-Fix-Your-Modem: +++ATS2=255&WO1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org brad@templetons.com (Brad Templeton) wrote on 18.12.01 in <20011218223059.J16865@main.templetons.com>: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 06:08:00AM +0000, Andrew Gierth wrote: > > The overriding consideration is that the defaults must not break the > > network. This is _more important_ than protecting the privacy of > > users, because on a Usenet that isn't usable it matters very little > > whether anyone has privacy or not. [...] > But we should not standardize wrong solutions either. > Indeed, but you don't standardize bad practice just because it's > existent! It's a very close analogy to security. Systems should not fail open, they should fail close. The bad practise is software that does not, by default, identify its users. Whoever wants to allow users to post non-identifiable MUST be prepared to use other means to prevent abuse, and so this MUST be a conscious decision and not a default. MfG Kai - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/