Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756512AbYHCRmc (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:42:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751425AbYHCRmW (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:42:22 -0400 Received: from ogre.sisk.pl ([217.79.144.158]:41238 "EHLO ogre.sisk.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751263AbYHCRmV (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:42:21 -0400 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Willy Tarreau Subject: Re: Kernel Summit request for Discussion of future of ATA (libata) and IDE Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:45:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) Cc: Alan Cox , James Bottomley , ksummit-2008-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel , linux-ide References: <1217779055.4179.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080803173941.314edf33@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20080803173254.GI615@1wt.eu> In-Reply-To: <20080803173254.GI615@1wt.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200808031945.04160.rjw@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1361 Lines: 30 On Sunday, 3 of August 2008, Willy Tarreau wrote: > On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 05:39:41PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > Actually what a material number of embedded systems need is a single > > dumb-as-a-rock CF only PIO driver which doesn't suck in large chunks of > > midlayer code. I'm just not sure that trend will continue as CF is giving > > way to other smaller media. > > I bet we'll see CF for a long time, because it is the only cheap > removable media to support IDE emulation and be bootable from an > unmodified PC BIOS. SD is cheaper and will soon provide larger > capacities, but it still requires a separate controller and is > not bootable with standard BIOSes. > > Anyway, in my experience, libata supports CF on embedded controllers > pretty well. So maybe we should start marking IDE drivers deprecated > to encourage people to try libata instead and report breakage if any. Well, I know of at least one case of PC hardware in which an old IDE driver basically works while the libata/pata poeple have no idea why their driver doesn't: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9157 Thanks, Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/