Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755200AbYHDNo5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:44:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753667AbYHDNor (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:44:47 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:37789 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753596AbYHDNoq (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:44:46 -0400 Message-ID: <48970779.80902@linux-foundation.org> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:43:21 -0500 From: Christoph Lameter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Wilcox CC: Pekka Enberg , akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman , andi@firstfloor.org, Rik van Riel Subject: Re: No, really, stop trying to delete slab until you've finished making slub perform as well References: <20080801182324.572058187@lameter.com> <20080803015847.GD26461@parisc-linux.org> In-Reply-To: <20080803015847.GD26461@parisc-linux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1508 Lines: 29 Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 07:21:01PM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote: >> - Add a patch that obsoletes SLAB and explains why SLOB does not support >> defrag (Either of those could be theoretically equipped to support >> slab defrag in some way but it seems that Andrew/Linus want to reduce >> the number of slab allocators). > > Do we have to once again explain that slab still outperforms slub on at > least one important benchmark? I hope Nick Piggin finds time to finish > tuning slqb; it already outperforms slub. > Uhh. I forgot to delete that statement. I did not include the patch in the series. We have a fundamental issue design issue there. Queuing on free can result in better performance as in SLAB. However, it limits concurrency (per node lock taking) and causes latency spikes due to queue processing (f.e. one test load had 118.65 vs. 34 usecs just by switching to SLUB). Could you address the performance issues in different ways? F.e. try to free when the object is hot or free from multiple processors? SLAB has to take the list_lock rather frequently under high concurrent loads (depends on queue size). That will not occur with SLUB. So you actually can free (and allocate) concurrently with high performance. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/