Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753504AbYHEEEQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:04:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750776AbYHEEDo (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:03:44 -0400 Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.150]:55043 "EHLO outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750723AbYHEEDo (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:03:44 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMEAA9ul0jLO4pc/2dsb2JhbAAIimalBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,307,1215360000"; d="scan'208";a="255280574" Message-ID: <4897CFE0.2070008@ii.net> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:58:24 +0800 From: Cliffe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg KH CC: Casey Schaufler , Eric Paris , malware-list@lists.printk.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linux interface for on access scanning References: <1217883616.27684.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4897BFB4.9090309@schaufler-ca.com> <4897C2A7.7020601@ii.net> <20080805034611.GA11399@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20080805034611.GA11399@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1255 Lines: 28 Greg KH wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:01:59AM +0800, Cliffe wrote: > >> If we had stackable LSMs then the required functionality could simply be >> built into the LSM interface. Then the anti-malware would simply stack >> itself with other LSMs. >> > > Could it really? How would such an interface work? > > Remember, the big issue here isn't the kernel "hooks", but the fact that > a lot of people are yet to be convinced that something like this needs > to be within the kernel itself. > > Perhaps we should dig up the proposals for the filesystem-notify type > patches, something like that might be all the majority of the virus > people need, as they want to just scan things for Windows viruses, not > Linux ones, and to do so "lazily" might be sufficient. > From memory Dazuko is a LSM designed for this purpose, although it cannot be used on systems running other LSMs due to the lack of stacking support. It is used by a bunch of anti-malware programs including ClamAV and AVG. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/