Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755883AbYHEOGS (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:06:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753896AbYHEOGJ (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:06:09 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:42534 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753875AbYHEOGI (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:06:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linux interface for on access scanning From: Peter Zijlstra To: Alan Cox Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Eric Paris , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20080805123136.0073e52f@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> References: <1217883616.27684.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080804223249.GA10517@kroah.com> <20080805002618.GA18215@infradead.org> <1217897224.27684.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080805005415.GA10108@infradead.org> <20080805123136.0073e52f@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:06:04 +0200 Message-Id: <1217945164.3589.128.camel@twins> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1079 Lines: 27 On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 12:31 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > No, I want a sane security policy in kernelsapce that doesn't look > > at the content because doing security by content properly is equivalent > > to solving the halting problem. I couldn't give a rats a** about > > windows viruses as they can't actually cause any harm on a Linux > > machine. > > Go on then.. post patches. > > I think your are being incredibly naïve. Our memory debugging is not 100% > solid but work by heuristic. Our lock analysis doesn't solve the halting > problem but is extremely useful and so on. Sure, but what's the point of partial security? It seems to me you're not secure until you're fully secure, so why bother with almost? Every bug caught with the debuggers is one caught, yay :-) Every virus let through is a pawned system, aww :-( -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/