Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759772AbYHEO1U (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:27:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755482AbYHEO1G (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:27:06 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:38280 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755305AbYHEO1F (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:27:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:09:34 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Eric Paris , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linux interface for on access scanning Message-ID: <20080805150934.489aae88@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <1217945164.3589.128.camel@twins> References: <1217883616.27684.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080804223249.GA10517@kroah.com> <20080805002618.GA18215@infradead.org> <1217897224.27684.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080805005415.GA10108@infradead.org> <20080805123136.0073e52f@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <1217945164.3589.128.camel@twins> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 720 Lines: 19 > Sure, but what's the point of partial security? It seems to me you're > not secure until you're fully secure, so why bother with almost? > > Every bug caught with the debuggers is one caught, yay :-) > > Every virus let through is a pawned system, aww :-( Every bug missed is a crash. Security is not an absolute. If I burst into your office with a machine gun and ask you for the password your security system probably fails ... Security is a risk/reward model. Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/