Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762121AbYHEPw1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:52:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1761605AbYHEPwQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:52:16 -0400 Received: from smtp110.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.85.220]:40739 "HELO smtp110.mail.mud.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1761547AbYHEPwN (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:52:13 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.au; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=yUCqBXvMzagyR59EwjoK1uSAN5UN4nSay9I4IXMU2SGMOg9c2/JnNuUbKj1zplkWjCCW6cdG+7iGN34HY6z+FJ/YFYubhdS6ShfedxhEf4KuMTmNWSP0aqg2SndzKOALEHXSIsQR3FRYJeQudtL4+IS4Zu1/6r2oBSsZ0iy0V0M= ; X-YMail-OSG: oUEN0oMVM1mJboJlxOG2AxihTu2w8yHmPESkvADCAq.CcICMOANdu9HOjMBOlIC1.mKIpxJz7PCgLjO6cmzyYYdDVqotmrRa0qZlNjchyQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Nick Piggin To: jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 01:45:22 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Cc: "Geert Uytterhoeven" , "Stefan Richter" , "Josh Boyer" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <17494.166.70.238.46.1217784156.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> <200808060133.10457.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> <44919.166.70.238.45.1217949560.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> In-Reply-To: <44919.166.70.238.45.1217949560.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200808060145.22321.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2223 Lines: 47 On Wednesday 06 August 2008 01:19, jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 August 2008 01:02, jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com wrote: > >> > On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com wrote: > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- > >> > geert@linux-m68k.org > >> > >> No I was not, but I am now. At any rate, I removed the Microsoft-isms > >> from the code. I can cut yet another patch for git6, but git5 was there > >> -- GPL2 and all. How about putting in into the kernel guys -- :-) > > > > Seriously? Because it doesn't seem to have had enough peer review, > > it hasn't had widespread testing in somewhere like linux-next or > > -mm, and we already have kgdb so you have to also explain why you > > can't improve kgdb in the areas it trails mdb. > > If you go back to LKML from 2000, this debugger has been around for 10 > years. I agree not in the hands of the public, but its very mature > in comparison to kdb or kgdb. OK I don't doubt that at all, but I just mean in terms of being reviewed by Linux people and how it merges with the current kernel (eg. we now have a debugger, which was unthinkable in 2000 :)). > > But the ideal outcome would be if you could contribute patches to > > kgdb to the point where it is as good as mdb. It is already in the > > tree and supported by a handful of architectures... any chance of > > that? (I don't know kernel debugger code, so I ask as an interested > > user) > > I plan to work on kdb and yes, there is a version of this that runs > as an alternate debugger of kdb - you can even switch back and forth > between them - but that misses the point as well. > > I can wait untl its more widespread -- or not. That would be great if you do work on kgdb... But I guess I do miss the point, then. Is there a technical difference with kgdb that cannot be worked around, a difference of opinion with maintainers, a wish to have mdb features at short notice? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/