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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:36:43 +0200
From: Bernhard Fischer <rep.dot.nop@gmail.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
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       Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
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       bcrl@kvack.org, linux-aio@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/4] Configure out AIO support
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On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 07:26:07PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:

>> > >The userspace headers are independent of any kernel configuration
>> > >(except for the architecture).
>> > 
>> > I beg to disagree:
>> > internals as exposed by e.g. aio_abi.h are impl dependent. Noone except
>> > the impl and it's users are interrested in it.
>> >...
>> 
>> That's utter bullshit.
>> 
>> The contents of aio_abi.h is a kernel<->userspace ABI that mustn't ever 
>> change. [1]
>
>Case in point:
>
>I want to be able to compile an application for embedded Linux which
>*can use* Linux-AIO, but can also run on a kernel which has Linux-AIO
>removed by this patch.
>
>I still want to compile the application with that capability, in case
>it's run on another kernel with it enabled.
>
>I shouldn't have to have a separate, special kernel with all options
>enabled, just to compile applications that run on multiple kernels and
>use run-time features when available.
>
>Just like all the other kernel<->userspace interfaces, the header
>files (including their presence) shouldn't depend on kernel
>configuration at all.

alright, makes perfect sense. I must have been playing too much with
libc recently, i guess.

thanks,
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