Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964784AbYHFPjj (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:39:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759416AbYHFPe0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:34:26 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:56316 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759383AbYHFPeY (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:34:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:24:02 -0700 From: Greg KH To: tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com Cc: Arjan van de Ven , "Press, Jonathan" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, malware-list@lists.printk.net Subject: Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linux interfaceforon access scanning Message-ID: <20080806152402.GC13996@kroah.com> References: <20080805181141.GA10700@kroah.com> <20080806092516.814453167F8@pmx1.sophos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080806092516.814453167F8@pmx1.sophos.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1188 Lines: 31 On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 10:24:21AM +0100, tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com wrote: > Greg KH wrote on 05/08/2008 19:11:41: > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:04:26PM -0400, Press, Jonathan wrote: > > > I'm not sure if this is off the direct idea of this thread, or if I am > > > possibly missing the whole point. > > > > I think you might be missing the point a bit here, as the traditional > > Unix model that Linux has prevents much of what the "traditional AV" > > products need to do, right? > > Could you please explain some more what and how do you think Unix model > prevents? It prevents any user from overwriting an existing executable, and it prevents any user from adding an executable file to a common directory (/usr/bin). It also prevents any user from overwriting a different user's data file. What specific threat model are you feeling is still present on Linux today that this proposal is supposed to address? thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/