Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757953AbYHGVfq (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:35:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756213AbYHGVfQ (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:35:16 -0400 Received: from mail.hauppauge.com ([167.206.143.4]:4360 "EHLO mail.hauppauge.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755881AbYHGVfO (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:35:14 -0400 Message-ID: <489B6A66.40605@linuxtv.org> From: mkrufky@linuxtv.org To: khali@linux-fr.org Cc: sam@ravnborg.org, user.kernel@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, i2c@lm-sensors.org Subject: Re: Problem with restricted I2C algorithms in kernel 2.6.26! Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:34:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) x-originalarrivaltime: 07 Aug 2008 21:32:37.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CCF4F90:01C8F8D5] user-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2205 Lines: 58 Jean Delvare wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:03:36 -0400, Michael Krufky wrote: > >> I agree with Trent and D.Kelly >> >> These options should be made available to the user -- We should go >> with the patch that Jean posted, "Subject: i2c: Let users select >> algorithm drivers manually again" -- this is a fair compromise for >> both sides -- users that dont know should leave the automatic >> selection enabled. Users that know better can disable the automatic >> selection and enable what they need. >> >> The statement, "just have the external driver merged into the kernel" >> is not a solution. >> > > Why not, please? A vast majority of drivers work fine that way today. I > am still waiting for someone to give me a good reason why some other > drivers supposedly can't be merged upstream (something better than > "believe me, it's impossible".) > > Nobody said that a driver "...can't be merged upstream" ... but REQUIRING a driver to be merged upstream to allow development and / or testing is a problem, IMHO. If you required that all of my development happens within a git development repository, preventing me from working against distro-kernel xyz, then I would simply spend more time on Windows driver development and my Linux contributions would cease. External subsystem development repositories allow us to work against stable kernels at our own pace. When driver X is ready to be merged, it gets merged. With the model that you propose, "use linux-next for development" ... well then what about testing? Who is going to test my driver if it requires a full kernel compile? Khali, you know me, and you know that I am always in favor of merging drivers into the kernel. The ability to choose a kernel's features is an option that should not be removed. >> Removing the option to build those additional algos is a regression, IMHO >> > > Will be addressed soon, do not worry. Regards, Mike -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/