Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754019AbYHKQoh (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:44:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751766AbYHKQo1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:44:27 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:48233 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751248AbYHKQo0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:44:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:44:28 -0700 From: Arjan van de Ven To: Adrian Bunk Cc: S K , Zhao Yakui , Thomas Renninger , Alan Jenkins , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: cpufreq doesn't seem to work in Intel Q9300 Message-ID: <20080811094428.6b69d744@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <20080811162839.GA22450@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> References: <200808092059.47863.trenn@suse.de> <514e099a0808100128u303207clcb22292db2f0cc59@mail.gmail.com> <1218418431.6671.52.camel@yakui_zhao.sh.intel.com> <514e099a0808102144n241c8e9ak255bded0a80744f1@mail.gmail.com> <20080811042244.469f8e1d@infradead.org> <20080811140206.GB3338@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> <20080811071128.0165be50@infradead.org> <20080811160346.GB21292@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> <20080811092047.42bf716b@infradead.org> <20080811162839.GA22450@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> Organization: Intel X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by casper.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1300 Lines: 33 On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:28:39 +0300 Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > yes there is.. for cases where there is overtemperature. Think of > > it as the emergency break in the subway. You really don't want to > > use it but when you need it you're glad it's there. > > But this only helps when the cooling is working but not good enough, > for the classic "fan broken" case it won't cool down enough. I would call this an unclassified statement for which you have no data to show that it's correct, at least for Intel cpus in general. > > Does the Pentium 4 predate CPUs that shutdown when becoming too hot > (I experienced such a shutdown recently on my Athlon...)? > thermal shutdown is the last measure for sure (and it's in cpus yes)... but sysadmins frown on that.. before you go down that path there's various things that happen first (thermal throttle being one of them) -- If you want to reach me at my work email, use arjan@linux.intel.com For development, discussion and tips for power savings, visit http://www.lesswatts.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/