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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: CRAP in 2.4.18-pre7
Date: 27 Jan 2002 13:08:49 -0800
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> 
> You don't need a hub to have collisions.
> 
> Duplex mismatch (i.e. one card in full-duplex, the other in half-duplex)
> would just show 10-50 KByte/sec transfer rates typically.
> 
> The card's statistics about "collisions" and "late collisions" would
> positively prove if this is the case.
> 

Not all cards correctly autoconfigure across a crossover cable (they
should, but not all do).  When autoconfigure is screwed up, as you
indicate above, things will be *VERY* messed up.

	-hpa
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