Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753575AbYHLPLm (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:11:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752033AbYHLPLe (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:11:34 -0400 Received: from e3.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.143]:52941 "EHLO e3.ny.us.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751548AbYHLPLd (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:11:33 -0400 Subject: Re: checkpoint/restart ABI From: Dave Hansen To: Peter Chubb Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge , Theodore Tso , Arnd Bergmann , containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <87d4kfds5i.wl%peterc@chubb.wattle.id.au> References: <20080807224033.FFB3A2C1@kernel> <200808090013.41999.arnd@arndb.de> <20080811152201.GB25930@us.ibm.com> <200808111853.13854.arnd@arndb.de> <1218484114.5598.43.camel@nimitz> <48A0CD86.6030704@goop.org> <87d4kfds5i.wl%peterc@chubb.wattle.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:11:10 -0700 Message-Id: <1218553870.5598.83.camel@nimitz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1598 Lines: 34 On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 09:54 +1000, Peter Chubb wrote: > Jeremy> * multiple processes * pipes * UNIX domain sockets * INET > Jeremy> sockets (both inter and intra machine) * unlinked open files * > Jeremy> checkpointing file content * closed files (ie, files which > Jeremy> aren't currently open, but will be soon, esp tmp files) * > Jeremy> shared memory * (Peter, what have I forgotten?) > > File sharing; multiple threads with wierd sharing arrangements (think: > clone with various parameters, followed by exec in some of the threads > but not others); MERT/system-V shared memory, semaphores and message > queues; devices (audio, framebuffer, etc), HugeTLBFS, numa issues > (pinning, memory layout), processes being debugged (so, > checkpoint.restart a gdb/target pair), futexes, etc., etc. Linux > process state keeps expanding. Yep, these are all challenges. If you have some really specific questions, or things you truly think can't be done, please speak up. But, I really don't see any show stoppers in your list. We also plan to do this incrementally. The first consumers are likely to be dumb, simple HPC apps that don't have real hardware like audio or video. Eventually, we'll get to real hardware like infiniband (ugh) or audio. Eventually. (Actually futexes aren't that bad because they don't keep state in-kernel) -- Dave -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/