Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754655AbYHNLFU (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:05:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754378AbYHNLEs (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:04:48 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:1265 "EHLO spitz.ucw.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753732AbYHNLEr (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:04:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:53:02 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: "Serge E. Hallyn" Cc: Dave Hansen , Arnd Bergmann , containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, Theodore Tso , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/4] checkpoint-restart: general infrastructure Message-ID: <20080814055301.GH6995@ucw.cz> References: <20080807224033.FFB3A2C1@kernel> <200808081146.54834.arnd@arndb.de> <1218221451.19082.36.camel@nimitz> <200808090013.41999.arnd@arndb.de> <1218234411.19082.58.camel@nimitz> <20080811150703.GA25930@us.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080811150703.GA25930@us.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1827 Lines: 39 Hi! > > > > I have to wonder if this is just a symptom of us trying to do this the > > > > wrong way. We're trying to talk the kernel into writing internal gunk > > > > into a FD. You're right, it is like a splice where one end of the pipe > > > > is in the kernel. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts on a better way to do this? > > > > > > Maybe you can invert the logic and let the new syscalls create a file > > > descriptor, and then have user space read or splice the checkpoint > > > data from it, and restore it by writing to the file descriptor. > > > It's probably easy to do using anon_inode_getfd() and would solve this > > > problem, but at the same time make checkpointing the current thread > > > hard if not impossible. > > > > Yeah, it does seem kinda backwards. But, instead of even having to > > worry about the anon_inode stuff, why don't we just put it in a fs like > > everything else? checkpointfs! > > One reason is that I suspect that stops us from being able to send that > data straight to a pipe to compress and/or send on the network, without > hitting local disk. Though if the checkpointfs was ram-based maybe not? > > As Oren has pointed out before, passing in an fd means we can pass a > socket into the syscall. If you do pass a socket, will it handle blocking correctly? Getting deadlocked task would be bad. What happens if I try to snapshot into /proc/self/fd/0 ? Or maybe restore from /proc/cmdline? -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/