Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:52:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:52:46 -0500 Received: from chaos.analogic.com ([204.178.40.224]:8578 "EHLO chaos.analogic.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:52:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:55:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard B. Johnson" Reply-To: root@chaos.analogic.com To: Nigel Gamble cc: Alex Davis , Daniel Phillips , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Don't use dbench for benchmarks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Nigel Gamble wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > It seems that compiling the Linux Kernel while burning a CDROM gives > > a good check of "acceptable" performance. But, such operations are > > not "benchmarks". The trick is to create a benchmark that performs > > many "simultaneous" independent and co-dependent operations using > > I/O devices that everyone is likely to have. I haven't seen anything > > like this yet. > > > > Such a benchmark might have multiple tasks performing things like: > > > > (1) Real Math on large arrays. > > > > (2) Data-base indexed lookups. > > > > (3) Data-base keys sorting. > > > > (4) Small file I/O with multiple creations and deletions. > > > > (5) Large file I/O operations with many seeks. > > > > (6) Multiple "network" Client/Server tasks through loop-back. > > > > (7) Simulated compiles by searching directory trees for > > "include" files, reading them and closing them, while > > performing string-searches to simulate compiler parsing. > > > > (8) Two or more tasks communicating using shared-RAM. This > > can be a "nasty" performance hog, but tests the performance > > of threaded applications without having to write those > > applications. > > > > (9) And more.... > > > > > > These tasks would be given a "performance weighting value", a heuristic > > that relates to perceived overall performance. > > It sounds like you are describing the Aim Benchmark suite, which has > been used for years to compare unix system performancem, and was > recently released under the GPL by Caldera. > > See http://caldera.com/developers/community/contrib/aim.html > > Nigel Gamble nigel@nrg.org > Mountain View, CA, USA. http://www.nrg.org/ > That sounds good. Have you tried it? Does it seem to provide the kind of data that will show the effect of various trade-offs? Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.1 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). I was going to compile a list of innovations that could be attributed to Microsoft. Once I realized that Ctrl-Alt-Del was handled in the BIOS, I found that there aren't any. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/