Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:48:37 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:48:27 -0500 Received: from dsl-213-023-039-090.arcor-ip.net ([213.23.39.90]:41351 "EHLO starship.berlin") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:48:19 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Daniel Phillips To: Hans Reiser , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [reiserfs-dev] Re: Note describing poor dcache utilization under high memory pressure Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:52:33 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: Josh MacDonald , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com, reiserfs-dev@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <3C55A58F.1070908@namesys.com> In-Reply-To: <3C55A58F.1070908@namesys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On January 28, 2002 08:25 pm, Hans Reiser wrote: > If I understand you right, your scheme has the fundamental flaw that one > dcache entry on a page can keep an entire page full of "slackers" in > memory, and since there is little correlation in usage between dcache > entries that happen to get stored on a page, the result is that the > effectiveness per megabyte of the dcache is decreased by an order of > magnitude. It would be worse to have one dcache entry per page, but > maybe not by as much as you might expect. > > When objects smaller than a page are stored on a page but not correlated > in their usage, they need to be aged individually not as a page, and > then garbage collected as needed. I had the identical thought - i.e., that this is a job for object aging and not lru, then I realized that a slight modification to lru can do the job, that is: - An access to any object on the page promotes the page to the hot end of the lru list. - When it's time to recover a page (or pages) scan from the cold end towards the hot end, and recover the first page(s) on which all objects are free. > Neither the current model nor your > proposed scheme solve the fundamental problem Josh's measurements prove > exists. My suggestion might. -- Daniel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/