Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:39:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:39:50 -0500 Received: from beasley.gator.com ([63.197.87.202]:7952 "EHLO beasley.gator.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:39:33 -0500 From: "George Bonser" To: "Daniel Phillips" , "Rob Landley" , Subject: RE: A modest proposal -- We need a patch penguin Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:39:23 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org I dunno. I tend to agree with Linus from a management standpoint. You delegate responsibility to those you trust and accept their judgment. You also must try to ensure that the thing is built so that decisions made by Bill can't step on Bob's work. Delegation is one thing ... but it is the architecture that makes sure that delegation is possible. I am not a kernel hacker but don't feel that I have to be in this case to comment. What Linus is saying has nothing at all to do with Linux but is more along the lines of how to get work done in any kind of project that is larger than any single person. While all kinds of software might get written for project management and revision control, projects boil down to how the thing is built, the style of the person in charge, and the people around that person. Finding people that are willing to take responsibility for portions of the code base and develop a relationship of trust over time while being able to work with the individuals submitting patches for their bug fixes/ideas is a big task. If you could gather all of those people together, I will bet you they will be a successful team in just about ANYTHING they choose to work on. I think what Linus is striving toward is what any good manager wants and when such a team comes together, watch out, things are gonna happen fast. Don't think of it as a star or a tree, think of it as a star of trees. > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org > [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of > Daniel Phillips > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:39 PM > To: Rob Landley; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: A modest proposal -- We need a patch penguin > > > Apropos of nothing in particular: > > > (It's not a star topology, it's a tree.) > > There is no difference between a star and a tree, except > how you draw the > picture. > > -- > Daniel > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe > Linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/