Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:30:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:29:30 -0500 Received: from eventhorizon.antefacto.net ([193.120.245.3]:10374 "EHLO eventhorizon.antefacto.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:28:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3C56943E.60405@antefacto.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:23:26 +0000 From: Padraig Brady User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011226 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francesco Munda CC: Rob Landley , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: A modest proposal -- We need a patch penguin In-Reply-To: <200201282213.g0SMDcU25653@snark.thyrsus.com> <200201290137.g0T1bwB24120@karis.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Francesco Munda wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:10:56 -0500 > Rob Landley wrote: > > >>Patch Penguin Proposal. >> >>[...] >> > > You mean some sort of proxy/two-tier development? A "commit/rollback" > transaction model on the kernel itself? Dave Jones described the current model very succinctly in: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=100966905916285&w=2 He also mentioned a big problem. People not honouring/realising there position in the tree, (trying to get in the ChangeLog?). True, the only way to scale it is add another level at the current bottleneck, but this must be more than 1 person or it won't help, as it'll just move the bottelneck back a little. Personally I think automated tools (like bitkeeper) would help more than another level in the hierarchy. Currently the way I see it [should be] currently is: random hackers | | | | | | | | maintainers | | | | combiners | | Linus I.E. Linus just gets input from the combiners which test logic from the maintainers in combination. Also random hackers should input to the combiners and not Linus if there isn't an appropriate maintainer for their code. Padraig. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/